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Ive finally rejigged my portfolio to indexing

 
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:02 PM   #101 (permalink)
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any idea of the franking % for STW?
STW 24%.
SFY 23.5% with a 5.9% yield.

BR
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:13 PM   #102 (permalink)
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All have DRP although it's currently suspended for SLF.
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Old 13-01-2008, 10:09 AM   #103 (permalink)
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Thanks BR.
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Old 13-01-2008, 12:15 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Maybe:

1. Active Funds - All your usual chasing alpha funds
2. Passive Funds - Index Funds/ETF's
3. Listed Managed Investments - LIC's, LPT's

OR

1. Active Funds and LMI's
2. Passive Funds

There is no dedicated forum in Australia that discusses the passive investing approach with index funds/ETF's, so perhaps Invested could be the leader here and create one...and then maybe some of the smart chaps on aus.invest can come over here instead and share their knowledge!

In the US, there are dozens of forums that solely discuss the index fund/ETF approach, so we are a bit slow to catch on here in Aus...
We are quite lucky in this country. You can use options (on the index) and CFDs to hedge your ETFs. I feel there is a few systems you could build to protect your ETFs if you wanted too. This would be active though, not passive.

A section devoted to ETFs is a good idea I think.
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Old 24-01-2008, 11:57 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Can I suggest to others starting a portfolio with a large lump sum
is to Average into the market rather than with one lump sum

I picked the worst time! against the advice of my advisor which was to enter every 3 months over a year or so

Still even in these volatile markets I am very comfortable, and have not sold a cent. Im searching for more cash to enter
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Old 25-01-2008, 12:09 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Actually you did the maximal thing assuming you weren't trying to time the market, there are what I view as reliable studies indicating that lump sum has a higher expectation than DCA or other approaches.

Still doesn't stop the pain when you nail the top does it? I suggested an index fund for my sister and she got it pretty much right at the top, made me feel not so good
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Old 25-01-2008, 12:11 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Hi Insight,

Don't sweat it, I'm guessing she has a long term view?
This will make you feel better...

Fidelity : International

Cheers,

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Old 25-01-2008, 12:38 AM   #108 (permalink)
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I had an interesting chat with a financial planner yesterday.
He seemed to take a fairly negative view on future growth - he said that expecting 14% over the long term was overly optimistic, he suggested 10% was more appropriate (referring to an indexed portfolio.
Also tried to throw water on the idea of early exit from the workforce. He basically suggested that super was the best way to go, plough everything into superannuation until your super is big enough to have a comfortable retirement at 60, then worry about building a nest to tide you over from whenever you want to "retire" until age 60.
He is not particularly fond of leveraging, or direct residential real estate investment.
It was actually a little depressing talking to him, as I have always had a more optimistic view. He did say something that rang true with me, that you should ensure that if the worst crash we have ever seen hit the share market you wouldnt be wiped out. He made the point that if you are geared to 50%, and the market drops 50%, its all she wrote for you.
Definitely has made me have a think about whether my expectations are too high, or leveraging over 50% is too aggressive to be sustainable...
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
What do you think now on this coopranos?
Do you think your expectations only 3mths ago of leveraging over 50%, or >14% return long term
Reflect back, and analyse what your expectations were. Never ever make the same mistakes.

Where are all the forum members that were invested via LOC and margined heavily? I guess a bit stressed at the moment

To me Its better to look at ur risk level and set your portfolio
Just coz the market drops - doesnt mean ur risk level has changed
hence no selling at the worst time
only buying

btw
people were asking early on what wiped out meaned
hmmmm LOC + heavy margin loan at 10%
+ 25% drop in market

Lets make a pact not to get irrationally exuberant
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Old 25-01-2008, 01:00 AM   #109 (permalink)
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In late 2005 I set up a watchlist on tradingroom.com.au
of the best funds I could find

to track performance
The good thing is it has 7yr performance figures

and vanguard indexes to benchmark against

some interesting stats
in 3 yrs navra 15%, Aust shares 20%
6yrs colonial first state imputation 12% , aust market 14.8%

who was the best over 7 yrs
DFA small companies 22.89%
this beat even CFS geared 22.49% - remember this is geared adding to more volatility and less return
hunter hall and investors mutual were good performers
but overall - again - hard to beat market, DFA doing a bit better than market

remember I selected this list 3yrs ago - removing some bias
spreadsheet attached
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Old 25-01-2008, 01:01 AM   #110 (permalink)
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Interesting figures there with the Colonial Imputation fund vs the index. Thanks
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