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Old 27-09-2005, 01:33 PM   #1
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About a month ago I heard Navra funds were about 30% in cash due rising market. Since then, the market has been sort of exploding some more so I expect that cash holding is higher now. Any ideas ?

I like the thought of a higher cash holding, less exposed to market corrections
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Old 27-09-2005, 04:11 PM   #2
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It's not about less exposure to market corrections - it's about more buying opportunities when the market does correct !
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Ditto

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It's not about less exposure to market corrections - it's about more buying opportunities when the market does correct !
Hmmm........I would have thought it was a bit of both....




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Pretty sure I read in one of the commentary reports that the fund was at 30% cash months ago and obviously the market has run quite a distance since then.

There might be a 30% cash cap in a bullmarket. This makes sense imo otherwise you are basically prejudging where the bull run might end and not only run the real risk of underperforming due to a large cash holding, but also missing a large part of the uptrend.
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Old 28-09-2005, 08:45 AM   #6
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Hmmm........I would have thought it was a bit of both....
You are right Alan - I was being a bit facetious
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There might be a 30% cash cap in a bullmarket. This makes sense imo otherwise you are basically prejudging where the bull run might end and not only run the real risk of underperforming due to a large cash holding, but also missing a large part of the uptrend.
I don't know how NavraInvest managed their cash levels - part of the "secret formula" I'd suggest. However, you are correct in that high levels of cash to work against the fund in a strongly rising market - the same way that they benefit the fund in a strongly falling market. It's both a risk management tool, and an opportunity tool.

I remember when I was in the Navra offices a month or so back and Steve showed me a spreadsheet with the to-date performance figures ... on the sheet they identified how much cash was currently being held, and even how much that cash holding helped/hindered the fund (they did this for all the shares being held too). At the time, with the market going so well, the cash was actually seen as a hinderence - it had a (slight) negative overall impact on the performance of the fund.

They seem to have the forumla about right though - the market has basically gone straight up since then, and the NavraInvest funds are still outperforming the ASX200 ... so it doesn't seem to be that big a deal. The really big benefits come with the inevitable corrections - high cash holdings mean many more buying opportunities, which amplify future profit potentials.
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